Ways of obtaining what you want

Peggy: "Why don't you stop whining?"

Tobia: "I'm not whining, I am politely asking to get noticed."

Peggy: "Whatever - you know they don't like it and that it might even be counterproductive."

Tobia: "I don't think so, at times they need to be reminded about our presence."

Peggy: "You mean that at times you want to be spoiled? That's called begging and it is degrading."

Tobia: "What is so degrading about that? Is it the old discussion about asking permission or asking forgiveness? To me it is just a matter of education or style, if you prefer."